105. There comes a day when you allow yourself to think and observe with a new perspective. Suddenly, the penny drops, and you can see what is really happening at the Geelong Revival Centre.
106. First, you must mentally realize the facts for yourself. This cannot be stressed enough. Do not let anyone else convince you. Own your own decisions as you'll need to practice thinking for yourself. This is my own personal honest and open story, it's not everyone else's. Yours could be different. Please remember this site is about critiquing the GRC while it holds itself up as the one and only true church to be right with God and there is no other way to recieve His place for you in heaven, receive His gifts, miracles and love - Are you and all those around you attending the Geelong Revival Centre receiving what that ministry is guaranteeing? Yes, or no? Do you know of and understand the recent and past cases of abuse of children in the Geelong Revival Centre? There is no protection of the Lord and promised protection is absolutely the basis for people attending the GRC.
107. Put aside emotions that have been programmed for many years to keep going. It’s a habit you can break. Keep going with the Geelong Revival Centre flow is the easiest thing to do, but you'll never advance in life. We humans need to be able to progress in life, we need to see we're progressing in key areas to have fulfilment, happiness and contentment. No one can progress while under the control of the GRC life dictatorship ministry.
108. Leave as if you are removing a band aid. Do it in one quick and final manoeuvre. Be clear to everyone that your done. Be very clear, don’t let anyone hope or try to change your mind. Tell them you want to be left alone and it’s permanent.
109. You will be an advancer, moving on to better things. You are not a backslider; you are progressing.
110. The easiest path to follow is not the path to take in this instance. Make your own path now.
111. There could be some roller coaster emotions, ride them out a little, and keep firm. Might be a tough few weeks, or so, with aspects of your life, but well worth the freedom and reality of life.
112. There are free people whom you can trust and who understand what you are going through. With time you will find them, by complete accident...or is it an accident?
113. Remember; You make the best decisions and plans when you are in a positive mood - You make the worst decisions and plans when you are in a bad mood.
114. You’ve been there for years, don’t need to rush to leave the moment you see clearly, do it right with the proper planning.
115. It should be treated like any club or organisation. You now don’t agree, leave and move on. Everyone should let go, but when you realise it’s a con and come out with it you are calling out everyone still going, that unfortunately hurts and offends because they continue to commit their whole lives to what you say is that con. People simply never like this, and many take it very personally. Their emotions will run wild, they get very upset, angry and mad. More proof it’s based on emotions, ego and not truth.
116. Don’t fall into the trap of instantly hating anything and everything that the GRC general membership went along with and thought about regarding day to day life. Playing the game of opposites is nearly as bad as when you went along to the GRC and thought and did everything they wanted you to. If you play the game of opposites you still aren’t thinking for yourself, which is not smart behaviour. Making a rule where you think what you would have done while in the GRC to just go do the opposite isn’t the way. There are points they were right with, points they are very wrong with. Work things out for yourself. It’s OK to make some mistakes as long as you take everything you can from them.
"You go into a shop, and when you pay for something you should receive the item straight away. You need the product. But what you get at the GRC is continuing over the top advertising, never get the product and it's not in the mail heading your way either. There is no product, it's all emotion based - The GRC ministry is a faith killing atheist making factory - Set yourself free to research the options!"
117. If you have dependants in the Geelong Revival Centre do not leave them in any way emotionally or financially disadvantaged, or alone if you leave the GRC– this would be a bad act. You should keep looking after their welfare. Work it out. If you are the leader of the house, the bread winner, do not simply throw your toys out of the cot and leave those in the GRC who depend on you. You need to support them through it. Be fair. Be considerate. You yourself have kept yourself in that position until now, so be the person you need to be. Be strong and a good example. At the same time everyone needs to respect your choice, especially when you sincerely want to continue to support them. Discuss issues as they arise. Be nice. Be nice but also be firm.
118. Now that you don’t want to go anymore doesn’t mean you have to force a loved one to stop going. Let them decide for themselves, it’s better in the long run. There is no shortcut or cheat for changing peoples minds for them in a healthy and meaningful way to anyone involved. The absolute exception here is for kids. Remove your kids from the Geelong Revival Centre, they can choose to go back later if they want. Many kids become deep searchers for the truth and lead a meaningful existence. Don’t believe the manure spread about kids who leave.
119. Expect a lot of resistance and prepare for the worst about your leaving. This way you’re best prepared mentally, and if there’s not much resistance – even better.
120. In the very least you’ll now have Sundays to do whatever you want with, maybe Saturday nights, Wednesday nights, a lot more Saturdays and any holiday period is yours to take and do whatever you want with. This is a huge benefit as time is the most precious resource for anyone, especially when you want to advance, search the truth for yourself and lead a meaningful life for you and everyone around you. You are definitely not leading your most valuable meaningful life for yourself and anyone around you when following the tight restrictions and rules of the Geelong Revival Centre. You’ve got this. You will do better out of there in full control of everything you think and do.
121. Ultimately, after all is said and done, after everything I’ve put on this website, if you’re comfortable in there, and for sure will be hurting a lot if you left, you can’t work this all out, everything is too hard, too confusing, you should probably stay. Continue being the best you either way. Use your support group in the Geelong Revival Centre. No judgement here. Feeling for you. Hoping for you. Give it time who knows? If you find comfort in there – stay. Too frightened to leave – stay. Be good to your friends in there, even if it’s just one person. If you’re alone I hope something happens soon for you, if you want friends.
122. Completely understandable if you aren’t currently going to the Geelong Revival Centre, have no one else, have friends and family in the GRC who would love you back, you’re lonely and it’d be better for you to go back. You can’t see any other way to be happier. No one should stop you from doing that. If it turns bad for you going back, you should leave again. Wishing you well either way.
123. Personally, I could simply not go along with the Geelong Revival Centre charades anymore. I was willing to leave everyone and everything I had behind and said so. It was a lot to lose, but in the end I have far more than I need regarding the meaningful important aspects of life.
"What are you sacrificing in your beautiful life with all it's good and rewarding possibilities for the Geelong Revival Cult that doesn't protect you and gives false hope?"
124. You might want to do everything you could never do before. Do things in moderation, or it could end bad. Actually, if you go too hard it will end bad. Be sensible. Time is on your side when you make the right choices, time is against you when you make bad choices.
125. There is plenty wrong with many people so stay clear as much as you can until it becomes clear enough to know what to do. Keep some distance between yourself and troubling situations. People who seem really fun and exciting usually get in trouble. Up to you when you want to pull away. Lots will start with much laughing and end in tears if you’re not careful.
126. If you believe the Bible, believe in God and his Son Jesus keep praying when you leave. Keep reading the bible when you leave. Keep enjoying it and everything it brings to you. Advance to a better Christian life.
127. Make new friends by joining sports clubs, hobby groups, try finding a faith building church, being active and mixing it. Work functions and work friend stuff can be really rewarding too. Many great friendships have been formed after simply bumping into people in random places and situations. Walking cute puppies can be a winner. Social media common interest groups, like sports or hobbies, are really good for making new friends online. I’ve seen this a lot, a real lot. Starts online then there are meet ups in person and away you go. Keep relaxed, don’t rush the friend making. If you are pushy you’ll likely creep people out, sure it’s OK to initiate, but find the right balance.
128. Don’t be ashamed of your past connection to the Geelong Revival Centre. Having regret is fair enough, but don’t feel ashamed for giving the Christian experience a good go there. It has been a valuable life experience, especially in regards to human nature in this setting. You have great knowledge of group therapy, and behavioural psychology witnessed at all the levels inside the GRC. You have learned a lot, not just from what you saw in others but also in yourself. Your hard earned experience is valuable to everyone, you may find situations where it helps out a lot. You can help by sharing your experience openly to tell and warn others of what you saw.
129. When you leave you go to whole new level of understanding and clarity. A level of clarity you can’t develop while attending. I sure did. You’ll clearly see right through many ministers and people who attend the Geelong Revival Centre. They are not what you thought, by a long shot. They are absolutely not what they themselves think they are by an even longer shot.
130. People make mistakes. All the time. It’s going to be OK. If you were unfortunately born into it you didn't get any say, it's horrible, but you see now so you should make the move. If you were born into it or not, now it’s up to you and your own choices, you need to own all your mistakes from your past and future and learn. Don’t be ashamed, and don’t be arrogant. Be humble and thrive. Admit you were wrong, that’s a huge start, even if it’s just admitting it to yourself to begin with. Vacuum up the pride and admit you let yourself get misled, sucked in and went along with some rubbish. So what? Now is the time that matters. Not the past. If you were born into it you had no choice but your whole life hasn't been for nothing, there is still time and you can do many wonderful things for yourself and others when you leave the GRC.
131. You’re free to discover what is really going on with this universe of yours. You are no less important than anyone who has ever put themselves higher than you. You are quite capable of working things out for yourself.
132. I’m not here to attempt to lead you in any direction when you leave. You’ve had too much leading and coercion already and need to keep practicing thinking for yourself. What will you be? At least to begin with? A Christian. Atheist. Muslim. Hindu. Buddhist. Humanist. Evolutionist. Creationist. Mix of a few. None for now, none for ever.
133. Which path you start looking along is up to you now. Enjoy the journey. It’s possible you’re not going to search, at least for now, that’s good too if it makes you happy and content. In any case there’s grace for you to unwind and decompress after you advance so you can gather your thoughts, recover, regroup.
134. A true searcher for truth will always be curious, always be keen to find out what is really going on, so don’t be afraid of losing that. Maybe you don’t want to look at all, you’re done, but things appear and happen around you that can’t be ignored, so you find things out that way. Maybe there is nothing, you search long and hard and you find nothing.
135. There are a few groups on social media, and the like, that focus on bashing anything and everything Geelong Revival Centre. Fair enough, there’s plenty of fodder for those cannons. There can be some interesting and entertaining views, honestly bad stories but also one sided stories where some things don’t make sense as you read between the lines. Go have a look, you're free to do so, you will probably learn a few things and it will also be entertaining. Plus you might recognize people you know and want to say hi. Many will give you support and nearly everyone will be so glad you woke up and left the Geelong Revival Centre.
"They might claim you left over a trivial matter, but in reality it was the final straw that broke the camel’s back. They think they know, but they'll never understand...until they start being honest with themselves also."
136. Constantly listening to negative stories about the Geelong Revival Centre can fuel anger and make it hard to move on. While sharing experiences is important for closure, dwelling only on bad memories can prevent you from healing and finding peace. Try to see your time at GRC from different angles, and remember the good times too. Hold onto those positive memories. Use your experiences, your anger, and your determination to help yourself and others who may have been hurt by the GRC. You can make a real difference in your own and other's lives, if they have left or are still attending.
137. Forgiving people who admit they were wrong is a very good thing to do, and people in the Geelong Revival Centre are bound to keep leaving and may need to be given grace and mercy depending on each situation. We should give care and respect to them freely because lots of us who have advanced and moved on from the GRC were just like some of them once. If there's ever a good time to exercise grace to fellow humans it's toward anyone who escapes the mind traps of this cult and leaves the GRC even if they were the worst in your eyes. Some people who leave may be severely suffering inside from what they have done and let's face it we were nearly all complicit to some degree and where do we draw the line? If they were born into it, or heavily indoctrinated from a very young age by this Doomsday Cult from Hell they had no hope, please let's give them a break, cut them some slack. On the other hand if they leave and are still dirt bags then they've got misery coming anyway. If they stay and keep doing evil acts as ministry or keep supporting that deceitful ministry then more hurt to them before they realise it's a con, realise there is no protection and they leave. The GRC ministry and members wish bad times on us who advanced from the GRC - There is no doubt about that being what the ministry wants. So in return we should want the ministry and members to have a suitably bad time while they attend the GRC until they realise it's a con. When they leave and denounce the Geelong Revival Centre they go to being happier and lead a much more rewarding life in many ways, for themselves and others - That's what we who have left and become victors should want.
138. Pick those who have left and advanced ex Geelong Revival Centre survivor friends as you choose, don’t let lame GRC propaganda stop you from doing so.
139. Life wasn't meant to be easy and once you really realise it your life automatically becomes better. You need to work and plan for things. If you are fortunate good things keep falling into your lap. Lucky you! Your perspective on personal situations, life around you, and other people is what will help see you feeling happy and content or not. Focus on the bad and you'll feel bad. Focus on the good and you will feel good.
140. If you yourself are needing help you should of course ask. There are some very caring people who have advanced on and would be keen to help you. There are definitely true genuine sincere people who have left the Geelong Revival Centre, would never go back, and have never even contemplated it. Maybe you should contact anyone in confidence that you know who has left and feel you could trust. I recommend doing so. Even though you, like I once did, feel only someone who has attended the Geelong Revival Centre understands and has experienced what you are going through it's absolutely not the case. The GRC follows a very typical cult organisation template in so many ways it's incredibly obvious once you keep looking. Ex members recovering worldwide from different cult groups experienced the exact same methods, teachings, bible beliefs, emotions, and other issues you face. Just beginning with the different branches the Pastor Noel Hollins and the GRC formed from, all the ministers and members from all the different branches and offshoots all 100% know (think) they are following the one only true church and they're all wrong. Then there are the Mormons, the Scientologists, the Latter Day Saints, the Jehovah Witnesses...the Branch Davidian's, Heaven's Gate, People's Temple, Aum Shinrikyo. Look at any of those members and they are all brainwashed and mindless followers of some cult. Thousands and thousands have left, seek out good ones for help and information as required about leaving a cult in general. Seek out those who actually left the GRC for the more relatable conversations.
141. Having said the above it is important to put this up as someone who went to the actual Geelong Revival Centre because to people attending the words from just anyone from a different cult wouldn’t be the same. As someone who had put my ego aside and researched this topic a lot I will say the GRC is a cult like so many others in many forms. It's likely hard for you to think the GRC isn't a special one off place, the one place, but it's not the case. The GRC has been cookie-cuttered sorry to say, it's true. The GRC cult leaders and members use the same people's weaknesses as the other cults to take over the lives of the followers. Many cults speak in tongues, profess miracles, practice the gifts in communion, have very similar if not identical Sunday and other meeting formats, all have the same personalities in the ministry and among the members, it's remarkable. Think of a few personalities in the GRC, I guarantee there are absolute carbon copies of those people in other cults. I've seen it myself several times. It's an eye opener.
142. There will often be a special bond between ex Geelong Revival Centre members. There are bonds between ex members who have advanced that are stronger and more genuine than any GRC relationship ever has been. And there is a reason for that. It's about being genuine through and through with no ulterior motive.
"Genuine apologies, but if you think you know who this is and ask I'll take the best option and withhold the truth about me being the author. Please, I ask for this one favour, don't take it personally. It's in everyone's best interest. I don't want anyone to know who this is and at the moment no one does. Not one person. No friend. No partner. No stranger. No enemy. No one."
143. Warning: I will never ever use any of this website's credentials, an email that looks associated with grcfacts.com, or anything remotely grcfacts.com related to initiate contact with anyone ever. It's my guarantee. I will never start a social media account that is grcfacts.com related. If it's ever required I will of course prove who I am then show you in person, right in front of you on a device, that I am the site owner. Please ensure you never forget this. It's important. No matter what anyone says inside any contact method it's not me. Don't fall for it. Ignore whoever it is, what they are trying to do, and move on. This website is it and will only ever be it! If someone has already done any of that >>> It's not me. Having said that please feel free to copy part or all of it and share, anywhere, as much as you want, but my point is it will never be me doing that. (CLICK TO GO BACK TO ENTRY 0)
144. I have never spoken really badly of the Geelong Revival Centre, it was a “Live and Let Live” deal, but the recent unconcealable atrocity affecting GRC kids who deserve much better protection and futures than they are currently receiving has made me do this. Enough is enough. The line has been well and truly crossed, so it’s game on to break up this cult by exposing the truth and getting the information out there as much as possible. I hope this helps you reading this.
145. The truth needs to be told, so here we are. Along with a current public push from many ex members and even ex ministry who are out to ‘Save’ the current members. It’s insane to think the GRC followers need ‘Saving’ but it’s true. If it wasn’t serious it would be hilarious. Internet search the Geelong Revival Centre, Geelong cult, Noel Hollins, Todd Hubers Van Assenraad, Brian Griggs cult to begin with and see all the links and information for yourself. You reading this may slightly think everyone, including me this author, is evil and the enemy, and I have been where you are, but it will turn out we are actually the good guys. The GRC ministry is a paedophile covering up and protecting wolf among the sheep, and not the shepherd they claim to be by quite some margin. It's just yet another false prophet ministry. The kids in the GRC are exposed and vulnerable. Are you going to be accountable for the traumatized kids or not? Are you going along with the familiar to you GRC ministry that does this or not? It’s an easy answer. Yes or no?
146. This is my truth. If you don’t agree and like it that’s OK, but you’re deceiving yourself if you think it’s not my truthful experience. No one who reads this has any authority over me or has more expertise in anything I have experienced about the GRC in any way. If you think you do you are deluding yourself and are a danger to those around you.
147. If reading this alters some of your thought processes in a good direction hopefully that continues to the point of you having confidence in yourself and a future free from others controlling you and you’re entire life.
148. If the content of this website has made you angry that’s on you, I’m not responsible for your emotions – You Are. It’s likely the Geelong Revival Centre controls your emotions as well, or you have left and now you get emotional over different opinions. Take it or leave it. You could have stopped reading after the first few entries. Tell your own story, this is mine. I’d much prefer you accept this story as an honest personal one and that it should be shared without you feeling anger. I don’t want you angry, I want you to be happy. Please see it that way.
149. Reality is either the Lord was never blessing the GRC, He has taken His blessing away from the GRC to somewhere else, there is no God or any other possibility among hundreds of ideas. Which one you believe is up to you. You should look for yourself and not let anyone control and steer your thoughts on it. I may have not succeeded in hiding my own beliefs about God or not, but am constantly trying to throw you off. I am trying to display respect for everyone's thoughts and processes to stay they way they are if they like, change direction, or to develop further without me influencing your ideas. You need to look for yourself. The aim for this site is to demonstrate the Geelong Revival Centre is not the only true church they claim ( refer to 7.), and that they are a false prophet ministry that cannot do as they say and you should leave when you can, while you can.
150. This website was designed to be as simple as possible, so it can be seen and read by as many people as possible, as all testimonies should be. Right? Apart from it being a wall of text, albeit in short date ranges, it’s a very easy website to read isn’t it? I hope you like the style chosen.
151. Going back to 143. please share this site as much as you can. Claim it as your own voice and story if it aligns with your experiences and speaks for you. Share the web link, print it out and give it to anyone. Do it anonymously or do it openly. Do not let anyone speak down to you about it, call them out if they do. Tell them they can't even ensure the protection of the kids in there, they are not the one and only true Church of God at all. That's the whole point they push on everyone falsely. If you know anyone that might be hurting and confused and think reading this could help, please give this to them. It’s mainly for them I go to this effort. If others also benefit than even better. If you think this could upset a person who is hurting about all this GRC cult business then please don't show them. Note I have not once shared this link, advertised it, spoken about it or promoted it in anyway whatsoever. It has come back around to me so it's being seen.
152. To some this writing is all for nothing and such a waste of their time to read, to some it may seem completely wrong, to some it’s got them worked up into a rage, but it’s not for them. It’s for that one lonely hurting person now, those people and kids who are after help to work things out, and then later it’s for those people in the first three mentioned categories when they change their minds and realise what is going on. Some will say I'm deranged taking so much time to do this, look how long it goes for, what a weirdo, I haven't got a life...but it's a few minutes a week. For them it's 3 meetings minimum a week after a lot of preparation, and hours and hours on end of attending. For them it's going to the echo chamber meetings and listening to the same repeated badly interpreted manure, people's actual lives being controlled through lies, fear, egos. For them it's doing all that every day, every week, every year, having no real outcomes besides emotionally, and there are no miracles. Plus their kids are getting raped while doing all that. Who is the weirdo? It's not me. And I'm only just getting going, there's a lot to bring up for people looking to see what's real while pondering different perspectives.
153. If anyone claims this as theirs, in a bad way, for bad reasons, I can edit this website and other things to prove otherwise. The Cult leaders and some members will claim stupid things about me the author (who no one knows is) as a tool to stop people from looking at it. More lies. Straw-men get made, arguments go around in circles, semantic wars and scripture twisting will go on forever. That’s what back patting themselves religion does best. Try not get sucked in. If I was found out it was my choice, my mistake, a coincidence, unfolding of circumstances that resulted from probability. It could also be the result of someone really reaching out for help who doesn’t seem to be getting any. But, it wasn’t the god of the GRC revealing it as they would falsely claim. There is at least one GRC member who has extreme computer hacking knowledge and could easily call on a favour or two - but again, that's not the Lord of the GRC is it? There's a thousand hackers that could out me who never went or heard of the GRC.
154. My thoughts are often with the ones who cannot have control over their situations, or doing it really tough inside or out. If I could help somehow I would and this is how I try now. If the effort here helps just one person, changes a life to be a good fulfilled one, a happier one, a life that makes more sense away from the lies and ego trippers, then it’s worth it. My biggest dream is if any parents of the abused kids wake up, be honest with themselves, accept they made mistakes and leave the stupid Geelong Revival Centre. Do it for your kids, do it for you, do it for those around you. There are open arms waiting for you. It will be ok.
155. The Geelong Revival Centre ministry and many members relish the idea that the world and everyone around them will burn right in front of them soon at the 'Lord's Second Coming'. They can't wait and talk about it often. They get excited about it and all of us who have left remember it clearly and most even thought along the same lines at different levels at different times. It's an ego thing where they want to point the fingers and say you should have listened to us, been as perfect as us, we're better than you type deal. It's evil for them to think that way, but that's how it is. This is an open public invite for those same people in the Geelong Revival Cult, especially Pastor False Prophet Brian Griggs the new leader, to call the 'Fire of the Lord' down on me the author of this website, I put my own body where my mouth is. If you don't know this is a thing we heard while attending that anyone going and walking spiritually in the GRC could do. What excuse would be made up to not do it? One issue I see with this offer is that probability could make it so an ex-member (or even current GRC member for that matter) just happens to have an accident where fire has done them some serious injury, or worse, and detractors think it was the 'Fire of Lord' coming down on me the author, someone did it. Wow. A few prayed in private, in secret, for me to burn, it happened and now they're even more convinced prayer is answered there. It's this perfect storm of false belief feeding itself again, but this is worse because now they're imagining they have the prestigious 'LEVEL 1 Power of Fire' and this would make any ego elevate. We can't win against fools. If Pastor Griggs did call the 'Fire Of The Lord' down on me and it happened I would actually forgive him and not even be mad. I threw down the offer so fair enough. But it's never happening the way it's described in the Bible. Let's be real."
156. Shortly, any day after this update an Easter EggS of sorts will be on this site. You will have to hunt. You may like to save this webpage occasionally, even if you know not where to look, one day you may work it out, have the eggs. Surely there's a rumour or two about how I'm monitoring visitors and there could be malicious code on this site - But there's absolutely no malware, trojan or any of that sort of purpose software. Feel free to hire an expert to go through it. Ask for proof from an actual independent expert, not just feelings and thoughts from someone who knows nothing about computer science or just dabbles as a hobby, you should rely on a professional in cases like this. If it gives you peace of mind please check this site using a real life expert, any other method is a bad joke. It's not hard to make a fake scam website report up, be very wary of who you believe, what is that person's best interest and motive? Find an independent analyst, and definitely absolutely no one from the GRC - Need that be said? There's nothing in here that will harm the device you view this website on. If you're well intended, respectful and nice you'll never get grief from me. I don't tell porkies like the GRC does. You're only as good as your word!
157. Glad this topic is over.
"How many current attending Geelong Revival Centre members are P.I.M.O? Physically In - Mentally Out."
158. Mentally, we aren't our own inventions. Our parents, caregivers, siblings, peers, teachers and in this website's topic case the Geelong Revival Centre ministry and members have had an enormous influence on who we are and exactly how we think.
159. It's not always obvious that we are being conditioned into thinking and behaving certain ways. Especially when we're young because we have no idea what's going on, our brains start as empty little computer programs that get code written to it by everyone above in entry 158..
160. It's a very complex topic and not an expert but it goes something like this; From birth and as we get older our minds keep getting programmed both consciously and subconsciously. Conscious means aware thinking. Subconscious means not aware of it. We control our legs subconsciously when we walk for example. You don't think about it, your legs just walk. Same with breathing, it's done automatically from deep within away from our thoughts. Same with touch typing quickly, it's like magic - even if there is a mistakle here and ther. Intuition and instincts are also subconscious, very important to understand this link, maybe think about this association and what it can cause mentally or 'spiritually' during the week. Look into conscious and subconscious further, there's hours and hours and days of reading with many ways to understand it.
161. Look at your subconscious as a huge memory storage unit. You can't possibly think about everything in your memory all at once. Try it now. Impossible. Everything you learn goes into it. There's also an enormous amount of programming in our subconscious that we can never think about that work for us automatically. You often learn things without knowing it via your senses. You don't realise you have learnt things. Your brain is an incredible device. Your environment, the things constantly surrounding you determines what you learn both while you are fully aware of it happening and fully unaware of it happening.
162. Maybe you'll read this set of entries. It enters your subconscious mind but you completely forget you ever read this. Maybe you don't like what you are reading and want to forget it...but you can't unread this. And it moves around in your subconscious mind altering your thoughts for the better. To come out in your aware thoughts when you need it possibly years from now. I hope it does and it helps you on a journey to working out everything that is going on for you.
163. My name is grcfacts, I'm not a clinical psychologist but here I bring you my Ted Talk about what happens with some ministers, or self proclaimed prophets, apostles or other people who really think they know better than you, or are connected to God better than you. Spoiler alert: They definitely are not connected to God better than you.
164. Story time: A young child is brought up in a Christian church going household. The child is constantly only ever surrounded by parents, siblings and ministry that praises any thought or behaviour that agrees with the going doctrine. The child is also punished mentally or physically for thinking or doing anything against their doctrines and beliefs.
165. The child hears the voices and sees the visions inside his thoughts just like we all do. Some think more in words, some more in pictures and video. Also known as Verbal VS Visual thinkers. But more or less, we are all very similar. Some thoughts are just feelings and not verbal or visual - this puts another cog in the machine that may explain 'religious' behaviours. Please consider.
166. Child starts acting on the voices/visuals he hears/sees when praying and certain good feeling thoughts he acts out in real life, like talking about a bible verse the way he understands it, he gets rewarded by the great reactions from the people around him and as a result gets a good emotional reward also. But, keep in mind the youngster is well mannered, well spoken and charismatic.
167. As he gets older he gets an excitement within about preaching more and more. He is generally very well received, he thinks it's only his message but it's actually the whole package he presents. His manner, his speech, his looks, his body language even his lineage can all be the contributors to his rewards. Although to him it must be the 'Spirit of The Lord' talking to him in his mind that's seeding all this reward.
168. A lot of stuff he's thinking about seems to come from nowhere. But it's not from nowhere he learnt it from years of being ministered to from a very young age. He just can't remember the subconscious training/programming. He keeps listening for that 'quiet still voice deep within' just knowing (thinking) it's the Spirit guiding him. It's not the Lord ministering to him on what to do, it's his own thoughts both consciously and subconsciously trained bringing it all forward. The more he does it, the more he goes bigger with it all, more grand with it all the more he rewards the thought of him being the 'Chosen One'.
169. Also it has to be The Lord within because so many people are following him now. They even followed him through a Revival Centre split or two. He has a ministry of his own, that the Lord gave him. He couldn't have possibly done this himself. Yes. Yes he could, he did. It was his manner, his physique, his confidence, his delivery, his presence that did it all. His name was Pastor Hollins and he more than likely believed it was the Spirit guiding him along the whole time. Depending on your make up, what would you rather believe the thoughts are? Your thoughts or the Almighty God's Spirit within? Of course some would love to think they are so blessed and special.
170. Guiding him to interpret scriptures the way he thought they should be. Guiding him to 'confirmation bias the stuff out' that wasn't happening according to scriptures that should have been. Guiding him to come down hard and make punishment judgements on people enough to even split families and cause people to commit suicide. Guiding him to anything but see that kids were and are getting raped in the fold under his watch. It wasn't the Spirit, it was not God, it was always his own thoughts he followed. That's how simple it is. He really did think he was God's spokesperson. But he tricked his own mind. Then he tricked everyone to follow him with his confidence.
171. Speaking in Tongues is a learned behaviour in the Geelong Revival Centre's case. It's not a language at all here. When you received it where was the cloven tongues, where was the mighty rushing wind? You can't pick and choose a sign here and there, have to have them all. Constant listening to speaking in tongues, at home twice a day every day, at every meeting three times a week is how it's programmed into your subconscious ready to be retrieved. Where does it say in the Bible to say Hallelujah over and over a thousand times to receive the gift of tongues? Where does it even remotely say you've nearly received? How can you half speak in tongues a few words? Why would it be like that? It's never once mentioned in the Bible that way is it? I am not saying Speaking in Tongues and/or the Holy Spirit was/is never real I need to add. Another topic another day perhaps.
172. All the different Revival Centre offshoots, the various different churches all around the world that 'speak in tongues' have different sounds. Each group has a distinct different sound or dialect. You know why? They trained each other the sounds.
173. I've respectfully tried many times to get AI language interpreter services to present which language I speak in tongues in. Guess what? Not one language detected yet. Try it yourself. Do you want the truth or just assumption? Yes or No? Bit weird 'speaking in tongues' to a mic but that's what you do to find out. I contacted the top language translator service in the world and they didn't want to help any further. Understandable. Crushing speaking in tongues at Revival Centres dead - they want nothing to do with.
174. The thoughts you have when praying, they're not the Spirit you think it is. They're your own thoughts. Give yourself credit my friend, they were your thoughts all along and they're always yours from now on. They were programmed into you beginning from day dot, whether you knew it or not. You can change your thoughts. You are what you put in, carefully select what you allow in. Evil people keep entertaining evil thoughts instead of crushing them, that's how you get rapists and paedophiles.
175. Who makes the best Pastors? It's a definable algorithm: The longer a male is in the Geelong Revival Centre for programming while ensuring there is no outside influence, with the most charisma, best manner, best copy paste platform 'word' presentation, best copy paste ideals, something a little different looking physically and sounding that keeps attention a little more, best story teller, all while confidently holding the firm idea and belief his very own thoughts are God's Spirit talking to him win every time. They believe it's God speaking to them, but it's just not what's happening. Echo chamber keeps echoing an iterating programming loop. Pastorship is trained and coached over years and years, should it be that way if God was within that person? No. Why the wait? There's a wait because pastorship is fully programmed, and then head pastor gets a thought, or instinct, that this one is ready, but head pastor labelled his thoughts and instinct as 'The Holy Spirit" moving him. That's the GRC and every other false religion.
176. Of course, many cult ministers falsely believe it's the Spirit of God within guiding and they have the best intentions, but there are many other cases where the person is absolutely aware they are scamming people for monetary gains, fame and other reasons. Which pastor/minister is which we don't know. Who are we to correctly judge? Difficult to know. But we shouldn't hang them all as it were. We should try educate them all and see what happens at least.
177. For other very interesting operant conditioning associated topics look into brainwashing, menticide (killing of the mind) and the reality distortion field. The more you look the more you understand what goes on at the Geelong Revival Centre. It's shocking but at the same time relieving, depending on where you're at in life.
178. Full admission, this entry took longer than a 'few minutes' this week. And it wasn't short as indicated last update. Apologies if you didn't like it, I'll try harder next time. Hopefully it helps you connect the dots about what you are experiencing, or have experienced, and eases confusion with regards to behaviours within the GRC.
“Computers on the internet will never take off. It's just a fad, like everything else people in the world come up with. They’re all lost. I mean, what's next we never know. Goodness me." Pastor Noel Hollins *shakes head smirking - mid 1990's. Turns out GRC pastors are like computers...they would only be correct with the right data input. And all the people said - IT'S A SCAM!
179. If you are born into the Geelong Revival Centre and your parents are heavily committed to doing everything suggested at the GRC you're going to be programmed intensely, or cult indoctrinated, from day one without a choice until you are old or brave enough to think for yourself, if you dare. You are the GRC's interpretations of everything in the King James Bible when you tow the GRC line as you should.
180. We all experienced the constant use of fear tactics at the Geelong Revival Centre which helps make it a Doomsday Cult and not a church about love, grace and happiness as Jesus would want. It's only because of being trapped in this environment that you believe it all. There is no choice. You never see any other interpretations of the bible and definitely cannot explore any other explanations for anything in life without fear of getting caught and then ridiculed and shamed. Even worse be belted hard and physically tortured for searching out the full truth on your own. You can read the Bible yourself, as much as you want, but don't ever think you can interpret even one scripture without the approval of the ministry. The ministry and members will get upset if you don't take their word for everything in your life. It's incredibly controlling. There is no other sheltered upbringing like this. It's horrible and only brings up adults that are fractionally formed mentally. You have to leave to fully develop. And you can, once you leave the limiting GRC.
181. The absolute mantra at the Geelong Revival Centre is "Do and think what we say or you will go to hell when you die or you will burn when the lord returns via the apocalyptic nuclear war!" If they have changed from it being a nuclear war between Russia, China and the rest of the world the Lord has seemingly changed this plan for some reason because that was what we were constantly told while I attended. Every week without fail "your eyes will burn out of their sockets, your tongue will melt in your mouth" if you don't do as the GRC says. It's a scare tactic that works, especially on the young, and fearful teens and adults. What burning end of the world prophecy did the GRC use hundreds of years ago prior to nuclear weapons? Oh, that's right there was no direct lineage GRC back then, it came from nowhere so for 2000 odd years there was no one true church? Or there was one true church and the burning end of the world method was different? A big hay fire? Wonder if they've changed the message again to global warming.
182. Thinking for yourself out of bounds of what the Geelong Revival ministry says to do is entertaining the thoughts of the flesh, or the devil, or Satan, and not following 'The Spirit'. It's insane. It's delusional. It's always enforced to never ever look anywhere else for answers, especially toward salvation or the Bible. Everything along those lines can only come from the GRC ministry. So you need to go to three meetings a week at a minimum, four if you are old enough for 'Youngies', then stay two solid weeks at a Revival Cult Enforcement Boot Camp during this time of the year for two meetings a day mimimum to get all of that instruction for life, and death. Plus don't question the teachings of the GRC, that's a real no go zone. How dare you think you have any authority to do so...while they ruin yours and other people's lives.
183. On the other hand there is meant to be benefits, going to the Geelong Revival Centre means you will pray and get everything you need while here on earth, and there's a Heaven with streets paved from gold for you to go to when you die.
184. As a kid growing up in the GRC there is no option but follow along in every capacity you have. There are huge life deforming consequences for this. But all that can be tended to and fixed with your own honest truthful personal research outside of the GRC and reaching out for help as required. I hope this website helps in some form or another.
185. New people, teens or adults get invited by a work colleague, neighbour, stranger on a beach walk type thing via what is known as witnessing. A member of the Geelong Revival Centre strikes up a conversation and tells the person they have the answers for their life and any issues in it, including heart break, drug and alcohol addiction, healings, job finding, etc. People are often looking for meaning in life so this is commonly also a hook. Coincidental life stage timing is often crucial to the success of getting a new person to go to a meeting. It's also possible any new prospect is into the paranormal, UFO's, aliens and such 'interesting' stuff, so will be really interested in the spirit world that the GRC member is witnessing about.
186. The person was primed at that witnessing moment for whatever reason and goes to a meeting. Then that person experiences the lovely feeling of being 'Love Bombed' by GRC ministry and members. Love bombing happens at point of entry for every scam, either financial, or emotionally as in this case. Please keep in mind some involved, maybe even all, don't realise they are partaking in Love Bombing the new person into a false religion in this case. The feelings and emotions ministry and members receive from Love Bombing the new person only further reinforce their own belief this has to be 'The Spirit' providing. Oh what a blessing from The Lord brothers and sisters! No. No it's not.
187. The new person feels great because everyone is paying them attention. Everyone loves attention like this at what is probably a stage in their life when they want answers or acceptance. It feels great. Must be the right place? No. No, it's not. This happens at lots of entry points for organisations, businesses and yep, cults. The Love Bombing lessens and wears off pretty quickly. That was just the 'Flesh' enjoying it anyway wasn't it? But by this time other emotions and factors take over like the breakdown of the person's sense of self.
188. As mentioned a few times on this site already all that is going on with regards to prayer being answered at the Geelong Revival Centre is cognitive bias, let's ad another condition called the Placebo effect.
189. If ever there is a place for studying cognitive bias and the Placebo effect it's in the Geelong Revival Centre's environment.
190. Look up the Placebo effect if you don't know what is. I'm going to do something I haven't done in here before and recommend a podcast. If you listen to the podcast and replace 'doctor' with 'GRC ministry', 'medicine' with 'prayer', 'hospital' with 'church', 'theatre performance' with 'communion' and similar replacements throughout the podcast it all fits perfectly. Possibly another major piece of the puzzle for you? Hope so. It was for me.
The podcast is: UNEXPLAINABLE
The episode is: Placebos work. Why?
Duration: 25 minutes
It was published around 6th November 2024.
Please look it up in any good podcast streaming service. It is also on the web at vox.com/unexplainable. Scroll down the playlist a little until you can click on Placebos work. Why? I'd rather not insert external source clickable web links in here, so enter it into your browser address bar manually. I'll possibly add the transcript on a page in this website for you to read if you like soon. It's a legit site with no malware, so you can relax. Research the podcast company and that site before you open it if you're unsure.
191. Important to remember the Placebo effect works on more than just your body, it also works on issues of the mind, and it also works on all levels of the GRC ministry, hence another reason they believe what they preach. Perfect storm of false belief is back again. It's a fascinating listen. Please do, even if you know about the Placebo effect because there are special underlying analogy messages in it that may interest you. I hope it answers some questions you have, or you may not have even thought of thinking yet.
192. If you sit in a Geelong Revival Centre meeting, observing the goings on, watching the show, listening to what is being said, and considering the comparisons discussed in that podcast it's not the Geelong Revival Centre anymore - the entire environment morphs into the GPC - The Geelong Placebo Centre.
193. The Geelong Revival Centre's ministry and the members were key in you falsely making sense of absolutely everything in your life, but nothing really adds up. Now I try help you make sense of the reality that the Geelong Revival Centre hides from you. You need to leave. If you can. There's far more out here for you to find and experience in complete freedom at your own precious will. You've got this. What excellent things are you missing out of in your life by staying in there? We could use you out here, with all of us.
"They need to teach all about cognitive bias in schools starting from a young age. There would be a lot less stupid people walking around if they did."
Until next update please listen to that podcast if you can. If not research placebo in other ways. You've probably wondered when I'm going to go over God's existence status, or the possible options and what I think is really going on. Creation, evolution or something else? Next section of entries could be an eye opener for you, could make some angry, could make others laugh. Hopefully you won't work out what I believe, I'll just show you a few options. You have to work out things for yourself, don't let anyone force their beliefs on you anymore, including your parents and peers, it's your journey, you should be in charge of it and enjoy your own discoveries.
194. The main aim of this site is to very simply, very openly, uncover and demonstrate to you that the Geelong Revival Centre falsely holds itself up as the one and only approved church of God. Numerous more points of reason to leave the GRC are incoming, adding to what has already been discussed so far. No idea when this site's upload frequency will alter in anyway but it's time to acknowledge something.
195. I can't take credit for a majority of the ideas on this website. I can't even acknowledge and credit most because it's information I've collected only mentally over many years, I can't remember what I did last week, let alone remember who the original contributors are. Although like everyone else, I will always remember the GRC is a Doomsday Cult false religion. As a general rule we are all only adding to, modifying, merging and/or morphing the work of those before and around us - Whatever the field. Hence, without the people I've listened to, watched and read you would not be reading this website as it is.
196. I will take credit for specifically compiling and presenting the information in a way that's aimed at revealing and teaching the truth about the Geelong Revival Centre and it's ministry's behaviours. It's presented in a very simple form and in very simple English so as many can understand it as possible.
197. Below follows a few different labels for beliefs. It's a very simplified rundown. Maybe a reader is young, or older and has been sheltered, so they don't know or aren't sure. I've found friends who incorrectly thought they were one thing and corrected them explaining what they actually are. Look them up further if your interest is piqued.
198. Theist:
While attending the GRC and following their belief; You think there is one God and you are following him through the GRC ministry's interpretations using the King James Bible. In this case you are a Monotheist. As in you are a Theist and think there is only one God. Mono-Theist. Christian to be exact. In the Pentecostal and Methodist bloodline, due to the GRC founder Pastor Hollins' history.
If you believe in gods, creators or other from of intelligent designers than you would be a Theist that is into Polytheism, Pantheism or Deism.
199. Atheist:
If you think there's definitely no god/s or creator/s: You're an Atheist. All life and everything we will ever know is a coincidence of conditions that started from nothing.
200. Antitheist:
You're an Antitheist if you not only lack belief in the existence of gods (akin to an Atheist) but also actively oppose Theism and religious belief. Antitheists typically argue that religion is harmful to society, and they often advocate for the eradication of religious practices and beliefs.
201. Agnostic:
If you view it's unknowable either way that there is a god or creator for whatever reason, but usually because humans be humans only in a meat suit, you're an Agnostic. There's Agnostic sub groups that think towards there being intelligent design and Agnostics that think there is no creator of sorts, strong Agnostic, weak Agnostic...there a lot of versions. Go down that rabbit hole if you wish. Research away.
202. Agnostic Antitheist or Agnostic Antireligionist:
This would describe someone who does not claim to know whether gods exist or not but actively opposes religious practices, doctrines, or institutions due to perceived negative impacts on society, ethics, or individual freedom. Their opposition is not based on certainty about the non-existence of gods but rather on the effects of religion.
203. Ignostic:
Argues that the question of the existence of God is meaningless because there's no clear or consistent definition of what "God" means, thus making the debate on God's existence nonsensical without first defining terms.
204. Deist:
Believes in a creator god who does not intervene in the universe after its creation.
205. They're the common basic categories of beliefs, including offshoot types from the main, like Agnostic Antitheist as an example of the many mixtures you could be. Which one are you? Make your own up if you want, everyone else does, and be proud of it because no one in this life should ever sway you from what you believe in. One above isn't even in many dictionaries yet. The Geelong Revival centre is a Doomsday Cult that forces their Monotheist belief on you through fear and misinterpretation. They convince you what to believe. Currently, I am firmly in one of those six groups listed above. This is not a comprehensive list. An internet search or discussion with a friendly A.I. assistant can give you many more belief classes and descriptions. There is some disagreement among some so don't sweat it if you're not sure. These days there are forums and groups for each one. There never was when I left. Go have a look.
206. Did the Geelong Revival Centre ruin your faith, remove your belief in God? It's not surprising if so because they've ruined the faith of many before you and will continue to do so to many after you. It should be said a thousand times that the GRC is a faith killing machine that produces Atheists, Antitheists, Agnostics, Ignostics and Deists because they promise if you do exactly as they say you'll see the promises of The Lord...and then nothing works out because it's all just fluff made of mind games and mental gymnastics! Maybe the GRC experience has just made your thoughts head in another direction towards the reasons for our existence and why we are here, thinking there still has to be a God or Creator of sorts even if the GRC has tainted your Christian experience and has given you bad feelings towards Christ. If Christ is real then any bad feelings you have towards him through the GRC experience would not be His fault would it? You were convinced by the GRC that the GRC was the place and it then represents the Bible and God for you personally. Doesn't make it that God does not exist. Fault would be on the GRC false prophets, not Jesus in this case. Not saying I believe in God and/or the Bible, or not, just explaining a perspective that may help you.
207. People all react and think differently when they realise the Geelong Revival Centre is not the gateway to knowing and then following a life of truth. You may even keep attending for reasons described previously on this website (89. - 104.) after you realise it's a con and believe in any number of Creator/Big Bang possibilities while still going to the Geelong Placebo Centre meetings. Different beliefs, ideas and attitudes are held after leaving and advancing, and indeed held while still attending. Some people feel they can't leave and are trapped. If this is you I hope you see the strength inside yourself soon enough to leave. You can absolutely do this. Might not be today, might be next week or month, maybe not for a lot longer but one day you'll be all set and prepared. Keep working on it. Build up the belief in yourself. Keep building it. Keep working on it. You deserve the excitement and reward of leaving and being your own leader. A thinker set completely free in life.
"You can't add days to your life, but you can add LIFE to your days! Stop attending the GRC."
There is a WATCH AND LISTEN RECOMMENDATION page now that has various podcast and YouTube recommendations with brief show notes. There will also soon be a page with direction to reading materials on topics covered in grcfacts. If you haven't listened to podcasts please research what they are and how to listen. They are free to listen to, but you may need to find a safe place to be uninterrupted preferably. Next set of entries I might share a few ideas on what our life could be, but there's something else I've been wanting to put up also that ties into some of the podcast recommendations. Take care until then. Thinking about what you could be going through this time of the year even if we've never met - because there are people who care all over and you need to understand it.